Is Using Credit Cards Smart?

In the comments on the last post, a few of us began discussing the pro’s and con’s of credit cards as well as what Dave Ramsey’s teachings seem to say about credit. I decided to gather my thoughts a bit and write a post about my current stance on credit cards and what Dave’s teachings say about it all.

I’m not one of those financial guys who think you ought to live in a cave, collect lint, and only come out on Triple Coupon Thursday.

- Dave Ramsey

It’s been pretty evident to me throughout Financial Peace University that this process of getting out of debt, learning how to make wise financial decisions, and building wealth is not just about selling everything you have because Jesus likes poor people better and come on really, you do not need those Gucci shoes and that frappcuino. It really is okay to have nice things. We just do not need to be owned by those nice things. And perhaps, just maybe, it is better to get nice things by working hard and paying cash instead of using what is often considered the “convenience” of credit cards. I don’t personally think credit cards are evil or sin (and nothing that I’ve read in Dave’s teachings have made me think that as well) but I do think they are unwise.

Some folks carry just one credit card with them and then others wallets have VISA, Discover, MasterCard, Banana Republic, and ten other stores. Or more. Some folks use the cards for the rewards and responsibly pay them off each month. Some do ALL of their shopping and gasoline purchases on credit. Some just use it for hotel reservations. I think it’s safe to say that everyone has their personal standard for what they consider credit card worthy.

Stores, banks, and major credit card companies are making it exceptionally easy to sign up and when you can get 15% off of your purchase - it’s sometimes hard to say no. The rewards that are offered are everything from airline tickets to cash back. Living with credit cards is just the norm and for me to raise my voice slightly and say that I think it’s unwise to use them at all is rare.

I’ve read Dave Ramsey’s The Total Money Makeover, Financial Peace Revisited, and have just recently finished the 13 week course of Financial Peace University. I’m not an expert by ANY MEANS. Daniel and I are still working the baby steps, and so I am clearly stating that I’m not here to give financial advice because I’ve done it and I’m now a millionaire. :) One day I might say that, but not right now. But what I can tell you is what I’ve learned from all the reading and research that I’ve been doing for the past four months and then what my personal thoughts are about it all.

My first learning curve was getting over the realization that perhaps I’ve been believing a lie in regards to debt for a long time. A lie that my great-great-grandparents did not swallow because they probably believed that debt was horrid as home-made sin.

History also teaches us that debt wasn’t always a way of life. In fact, three of the biggest lenders today were founded by people who hated debt. Sears now makes more money on credit than on the sale of merchandise. They are not a store; they are a lender with some stuff out front.

However, in 1910 the Sears catalog stated, “Buying on Credit is Folly.” J. C. Penney department stores make millions annually on their plastic, but their founder was nicknamed James “Cash” Penney because he detested the use of debt.

Henry Ford thought debt was a lazy man’s method to purchase items, and his philosophy was so ingrained in Ford Motor Company that Ford didn’t offer financing until 10 years after General Motors did. Now, of course, Ford Motor credit is one of the most profitable of Ford Motor’s operations. The old school saw the folly of debt; the new school saw the opportunity to take advantage of the consumer with debt.

- Dave Ramsey

Between the generations of my grand-parents and my parents, the birth of the first credit card occurred with the story of Frank McNamara. In 1950, he came up with the idea of a single card that could be used at different restaurants in New York City. It was called Diner’s Club. In 1958, Bank Americard (which later became VISA) started and so did American Express.

But still, the users of these cards were among the elite jet setters and and business men and women. The average Joe and average Jane still paid cash for plane tickets, hotel rooms, and any new goodies they wanted. “Credit” was certainly an option but it involved “going to the bank, talking to the lending officer, and proving you were a stand-up guy.”

But as the memories of the Depression slipped by, folks frankly just wanted to spend money. “Thrift is now un-American,” declared FORTUNE in 1956. And the next 10-15 years was full of credit cards being introduced to the middle class in a massive campaign. By 1970, the volume of credit card debt has reached $7 billion and with volume came a bundle of trouble. Delinquencies, credit card crime, errors, and fraud.

In 1973, Dee Hock, the CEO of VISA introduced the electronic credit-card processing system. It was somewhat primitive but was a great improvement and with his pursuing of over a million merchants to accept VISA, the credit card industry began seeing change. By the early 80’s, the industry had started making money (banks started learning that applications and credit checks really matter) and things started to simply take off.

And now our generation is simply swamped with credit cards. Last year over 6 billion credit card offers went out and over 18 million accepted.

Once again, credit cards themselves are not evil. But my believing that debt is a privilege (Oh, Mrs. Bergey, you have been approved!) and not a product has been my delusion.

The marketing departments of these huge credit card companies (and banks, too) are doing a Remarkable Job! We are rushing in and begging for acceptance and oh may we please have one of your pretty cards with a nice sunset or maybe even Hello Kitty? And could you up the balance because Christmas is around the corner? They have successfully encouraged us to believe that debt is necessary to exist and is necessary to prosper and that we end up thinking we are really something if we get approved.

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Proverbs 22:7 states “the rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.”

For a lot of us, we finish school, get married, and have debt up to our ears. Our school loans, car loans, and bad habits of dropping by Banana Republic a little too often are causing stress but we ache to keep up with our friends. And then when someone raises their eyebrows about the fact that we haven’t bought a house yet (because renters go to hell, as Dave Ramsey jokes), we start looking for that cute house with a white picket fence that we can stuff full of furniture from Pottery Barn, Pottery Barn Teens, and Pottery Barn Kids. And Lowe’s and Home Depot. And Apple. Duh.

And sometimes, surprisingly, a bank DOES offer us a loan to get that cute house and we swing through the front doors of the bank praising God that we live in America where anything can happen and thank you Jesus! All the while not realizing that we are trying to achieve the same standard of living as our parents. Only it took them over 30 years to get there.

With the new bills comes new stress, and unless you are blessed with a gloriously large income and have no budget problems, I’m sure you know how financial stress can affect a family. 52% of the marriages in America end in divorce and of those that divorce in the first 7 years, 90% of them say money problems were the root of their issues.

The borrower really IS slave to the lender. Whether we like it or not.

But for me, I’ve just always assumed that there was really no other way to live. And here is where I’ve realized that I was wrong. So beautifully wrong. :)

Here are a few of the myths that are commonly tossed around in regards to credit cards:

* You need a credit card to rent a car or to make purchases online or by phone.

Thankfully, a debit card will do all of those things except for a couple of rental companies. I always check ahead. For those concerned about the theft of a debit card, VISA offers a zero liability policy that says if your debit card is swiped then you are refunded any costs. If you tape your pin number to the back of the card (I’ve seen this done!), then a thief will be able to use it as an ATM card and those fees are not refunded. Just be wise.

* I pay mine off every month with no annual fee. I get brownie points, air miles, and a free hat.

Once again, these credit card companies are amazing. They make it seem so fun. This Discover commercial is the type of the thing that catches stay-at-home-mom’s like me:

But a recent Dun and Bradstreet study found that when you use a credit card instead of cash, you spend 12-18% more because spending cash psychologically hurts. So even though you might get freebies for using credit cards, you end up spending more with just your regular purchases.

McDonald’s also found this interesting and chose to begin accepting credit cards. The average transaction rose from $4.50 to $7.00 when customers paid with plastic instead of cash.

And although airline miles are a really sweet deal, it only makes sense if you use them. 75% of airline miles are never redeemed.

* My teenager needs to establish good credit and learn to be responsible with money. I’ll make sure they handle it well.

Credit card companies have realized that they’ve saturated the market and so they really are interested in your teens. College campuses often have free pizza and free-shirts available to any teens who sign up for cards. They are not making mistakes in marketing. It’s not a game to them.

In the FPU course, Dave Ramsey talks about how Junior Achievement did a study called The Case for Economic Education and discovered two things: More young adults filed bankruptcy than graduated from college last year, and colleges are telling them that they are losing more students to credit card debt problems than to academic failure. So when your credit card balance sky rockets you decide to quit school to go home and work to pay it off but then your student loans are activated six months later (because you left school) and you don’t have an education to get the better job to be able to pay the student loans. It’s an awful cycle.

These credit card companies want to establish brand loyalty at an early age. If that still sounds bizarre to you, take a look at this:

Awhile back, Mattel released Cool Shopping Barbie which was sponsored by MasterCard. She had her own MasterCard that when swiped on the tiny cash register said, “Credit Approved!” There was so much consumer backlash that Mattel pulled the product. After Christmas.

A couple of years ago, Parker Bros. got the same idea and issued new versions of Monopoly with VISA credit cards instead of regular Monopoly money. There was some fuss from consumers but credit is more acceptable today (okay, it’s more LOVED).

Both of these examples show a wise marketing campaign to get young children used to seeing credit cards, famous brands, and to establish a loyalty of sorts. Once again, I can’t stress enough that I am not screaming at the companies - I think they are doing their job of marketing very well. But I do not want Drew to grow up thinking that credit cards are what you have to do nor do I want him to think it’s perfectly normal.

* Another myth is that debt is simply a tool and that it can be used to create prosperity.

One of Dave’s stories is that when the Forbes 400 (400 wealthiest people in America today) were asked what is the most important key to building wealth, 75% answered that becoming and staying debt free was the number one key to wealth building. That doesn’t mean that they never used debt in their life or didn’t use rewards from a card, or take advantage of airline miles - it just means that the secret to their success was to simply get way from the burden of debt completely. Remember, the largest tool to building wealth that you have is simply your income. When you no longer have to write those checks to everyone each month, you have many more options to save money, give money and invest money.

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For me it comes down to releasing the idea that we have to have debt to succeed in being financially secure. Which, for our family, means no credit cards since the emergency fund and 3-6 months living expenses fund should cover all impromptu changes. Of course, the reality is that we are still chugging away at Baby Step 1 since we decided to move. :) And we have cut all credit cards up except one which we have here at home and will be cutting up once Baby Step 1 is completed. By the way, we didn’t have that card with us on our trip to PA. If that answers any questions. ;)

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We also were talking in the earlier comments about what Dave’s suggestions are if you need to buy a car or a house and you don’t have good credit.

I think it is clear whenever you read any of Dave’s books or listen to his radio show that he feels that used cars are your best bet while working on debt elimination. Another words, no loans for new cars! Or loans for used cars, for that matter. Saving up and paying cash for a used Honda to scoot around town is a good idea.

And as far as a mortgage, I’ve heard Dave often talk about mortgages that are reasonable. Once again, he doesn’t think that debt for a house is the worst thing ever. He says that the best mortgage is the 100% down plan. :) And if you can DO that, well, more power to you! I think that’s amazing.

For the rest of us, he advises not to buy a house until we are ready. And by ready, that means out of debt with a fully-funded emergency fund. If you’ve saved that much money and have spent time working on your finances, I can only imagine that your credit is in much better shape. And if it’s impossible, then I’d save until you could choose the 100% down plan. :-P

There is nothing wrong with renting for a little while. This demonstrates patience and wisdom.

- Dave Ramsey

Perhaps this will be the first time in my life in which I can say I’m choosing to demonstrate patience and wisdom. Of course, I will say that humbly. ;)

Two Notes:

1. I haven’t given a ton of information word-for-word from the FPU course because you should read the books or join the course to get Dave’s complete thoughts.

2. For those really interested in Dave Ramsey’s financial teachings (and he really does mostly talk about finance and not spiritual truths - he is not a preacher), read these articles, listen to his radio show, go visit a FPU class (the first class is FREE), etc.

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6 Responses to “Is Using Credit Cards Smart?”

  1. Julie

    Jennifer,
    Jeremy and I haven’t had a credit card for years. It is wonderful. We are getting our debt down slowly, but surely. It is such a good feeling to know that we are able to do that now.

    We are building up our “emergency fund” again as we had to use it as the down payment (security deposit??) for the house we are renting right now since the other house we were renting was being foreclosed on. We use ING for much of our savings because it can’t be used through our debit card and it takes 3 or 4 days to transfer which makes it harder to use on the spot. Most of it is put into different “accounts” that are for specific things, though we have one for saving for whatever comes up as well.

    We are trying to teach the kids these things as well. Amie and James each have an ING account (I need to get Christine’s set-up) and all of the kids have a jar for their money they earn at home for doing chores in addition to the ones they are assigned. (Assigned chores have no payment as it is being a responsible part of the household.) When the kids want to buy some cheap toy, I talk to them about why I won’t let them buy it and what it means to have the money but not spend it on something that will break in a few days. I talk to them about saving up money for things that will last. I tell them that for somethings, if they show they are responsible enough to save up so much money, I will help them buy it. Amie did that with some of hers. She bought quilt pieces (of which we need to finish putting together) and I paid for part of it because I think it will be something that she will be glad she bought and it will last for a long time.

    Anyway, I enjoyed your post and the comments in the previous post.

  2. Ryan

    Thanks for posting all of that. On the car front, buying cheap, used cars is not all it’s cracked up to be. I’ve been there and done it. They break down, causing you to put a lot of money into a car that wasn’t worth it in the first place. For example, we bought a used Jeep Cherokee. It was $2000. It ran well for a few months then started nickle and diming us. We were spending $100 here, $200 there AND just the inconvenience of having a broken car added more frustrations. We bought a new car and pay $300 a month for it BUT it starts every time and has never left us stranded. I bet most people aren’t feeling that good about their $4000 1995 Honda Accord with 200,000 miles on it.

    Secondly, is it truly wise to teach our children that cash is the only way to go and never get a credit card/car loan? In our society you have to have established credit. I think it’s unwise to ignore that. Most all of us will have to apply for car loans, student loans for college and mortgages. You simply just can not survive purely on cash.

    One day we will be semi debt free. We’ll have paid the cars and credit cars off. I’ll need to get a new truck in a couple of years. It has 186,000 miles on it and it 11 years old. We’ll finance that (as a new truck will probably run us $25-30K) and that’s fine with us. It’s a never ending cycle but I think it’s okay as long as it doesn’t get out of control. I’ve been there and never want to be there again.

  3. Joe

    Thanks for taking the time to write this. I think it will benefit a lot of people who may be looking for a “real person’s opinion” and not from some expert who has got it made in the shade.

    I definitely think that the way to go is without a credit card. It can without a doubt be done. I’m not saying forego any electronic money–debit cards are great. I think carrying cash around all of the time just to avoid “credit cards” is stupid. And I mean that in the nicest way possible. If I carry only cash and someone takes my wallet, I just lost all that cash. If I use debit cards and no cash, they get nothing except my old wallet which smells like mexican food for reasons I do not want to explain right now. I will say the one advantage to carrying cash versus check card for everything is that it does give you an accurate picture of what you’re spending… for some people, they need that tangible evidence of “I had this much, now I only have this much”. It’s not a problem for me, but I can see how that’d be beneficial to others.

    A lot of people have “check cards” too which work identical to a credit card as far as the transaction goes but it just deducts from your checking account right away (so you don’t have to use a PIN like on a debit card). A bank teller asked me once which method I used–check card as a VISA or check card as a Debit with PIN for my transactions. When I said “as a VISA” (meaning I sign a receipt instead of enter a PIN), she praised me for that decision and said “Way to go–it’s safer and you get the fraud protection” versus using a Debit. That’s why I use my check card all of the time like that. The only disadvantage I can think of with using it as a Check card instead of a Debit direct transaction is that when you sign a receipt and process it with a signature, it can take a couple of days before that money actually comes out of your checking account. A reserve is placed on the amount but it’s not always exact. With a debit/PIN, it comes out right away. For some people, this is important because they live close to the edge of their balance (which is ok if that is how you want to do it).

    You know what’s funny–I have a real credit card–with a real amount of credit on it… but when I applied for it with my bank, I was immediately denied. The amount of credit was small. I only wanted the card with my bank so I wouldn’t have to mail a check in every month to pay the balance. I just wanted to do an online transfer of funds. Much easier. My bank representative called the credit lender (which I guess is another subsidiary of the bank) and asked why they denied it. They said “Not enough credit score and he is too young”. My banker replied, “Well… this gentleman is sitting right in front of me and has 3 times that much on direct deposit right now.” There was silence on the other end for about 10 seconds and then…. “…. ok he is approved.” I laughed a little bit on the inside. Credit score not good enough but once they realized I had the deposit to cover the balance, they approved me. It was a little weird but whatever.

    I use that credit card mainly for gas. When I bought my Macbook online, I used it for that also. The advantage is with the fraud protection that the card offers. My check card has some degree of protection because I have put a limited daily transaction amount on it (I can only spend so much on the card each day). But it is nothing like what the credit card has. When I ordered the macbook, within 3 minutes, they called me to confirm the transaction. That’s a comforting feeling. I pay the balance off at the end of the month (or earlier, whenever I feel like it).

    Do I ever plan on buying anything on credit (money that I do not actually have in hand/in my account at that very moment)? Nope. In fact, it takes me a long time to decide spend any amount of money when I buy something. It took me over a year to decide to buy my DSLR camera. To actually say, “I want to spend money on this”. And then, I saved up, and once I had the cash, I paid for it. I actually used a check but you know what I mean. No credit balance used. I waited until I had the means to get what I wanted.

    I’ve wanted an iPod for like 8 years now. I am less than 2 weeks away from convincing myself to spend the money that I’ve saved up for to get it. I can feel myself wearing down from my convincing. I am very persuasive. And I might have multiple personalities. Not sure. If I did… one of them would be a tight money gripping banker who makes me feel guilty any time I spend money. And the other one would be a techie/nerd who wants electronics all of the time.

    That is all I am saying. I hope it helps improve on the discussion and isn’t just blog fodder…

    Joe

  4. Joe

    “Secondly, is it truly wise to teach our children that cash is the only way to go and never get a credit card/car loan? In our society you have to have established credit. I think it’s unwise to ignore that. Most all of us will have to apply for car loans, student loans for college and mortgages. You simply just can not survive purely on cash.”

    Having established credit helps you to get more credit, that is about it. But it is definitely possible to enjoy life without it. I worked a full time job and did some side work too while I was in school to avoid school loans. I saved up over $17k cash for two years by driving a clunker car and then went to a car auction and bought my (then-new) 2005 Trailblazer. I rent an apartment now so I do not have a mortgage. I want to own a house someday but I realize that right now in my life I just do not have the time to manage an investment like that (yardwork, fixing things, etc.). So, I am renting for now. When I do buy a house I plan to put down a considerable amount on principle. I will have to get a mortgage to pay for it.

    To live monthly without credit… I think it’s just a choice we have to make in life. I have to actively say “I will live inside my means, even if that means not having everything I think I ought to have”. I’m not saying that credit is bad. For a lot of people though, the availability of that extra amount of money is too much of a temptation. They do not have the means to pay it off yet they have access to the funds. This is when it becomes an issue. And for some, rather than deal with that temptation, by avoiding credit cards altogether they are able to avoid the struggle. Of course mortgages and even car loans are somewhat different than monthly credit because they’re more like one-time loans that you pay back… but still, the struggle can still be there–especially if you lose your income and are unable to pay the loans back on time, etc.

    Joe

  5. Daniel

    @joe: Wait a month … iPods are going to come down a lot because the iPhone is only $200 up front.

    {Daniel last wrote about: OpenDNS Shortcuts}

  6. amber

    This articles says that James Penny’s was nicknamed James “Cash” Penny. It wasn’t his nickname. James Cash was his real name.

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